Randall Abramson,
CFA, is CEO and portfolio manager of Trapeze Asset Management Inc., a
firm he cofounded in 1999 shortly after founding its affiliate broker
dealer, Trapeze Capital Corp. Abramson was named one of Canada's 'Stock
Market Superstars' in Bob Thompson's Stock Market Superstars: Secrets of Canada's Top Stock Pickers
(Insomniac Press, 2008). Trapeze's separately managed accounts are
long/short or long only, and have either an all-cap orientation or large
cap-only mandate via the company's Global Insight model. Abramson
graduated with a bachelor's degree in commerce from the University of
Toronto in 1989, and his career has spanned investment banking,
investment analysis and portfolio management.
The Energy Report:
In a recent research report, you looked at the macroeconomic picture
through the lens of value investing. You call the macro view "complex"
and "historically unusual." In the context of certain uncertainty, could
you please provide us with three principles that guide your investment
decisions in today's market?
Randall Abramson:
The reality of the day is that we have historically low interest rates
and a number of crosscurrents moving through the economy. At Trapeze
Asset Management we've developed tools, some of which we have
systematized since the big downturn in 2008–2009, to cope with periods
like this. We use our valuation model from a bottom-up perspective to
tell us where the individual bargains are, and from a top-down
perspective to tell us, in general, whether the markets or sectors are
overvalued, undervalued or fairly valued. Today, our work tells us that
the market has been hugging fair value pretty closely for about a year,
which is unusual. That one tool helps us establish where the markets are
and where they ought to be heading.
The second thing that guides us is the macroeconomic overlay. We have
an economic composite and a momentum indicator, both of which are
designed to predict whether there is a recession coming and/or a market
debacle—not a typical correction but one of those 20% or more doozies.
At the moment, our economic composite is showing smooth sailing, not
just in the U.S. but also in other global economies. Our momentum
indicators show relatively smooth sailing too, though a few countries,
including Russia, Brazil and Peru, have negatively triggered.
And,
finally, we try to determine which way the world is going.
Disinflationary pressures and the ascent of the U.S. dollar have pushed
down the resource sector, and most commodity prices have been badly
hurt. The stagnation in many economies around the world has resulted in
highly accommodative monetary policies. That's a reason we like the
resource sector: We think that reflation is around the corner.
TER: Fair value would suggest that we're not in a bear market for energy stocks, but clearly we are.
RA:
There's no question that the sector has been in a bear market because
we define, like most people, any drop greater than 20% as a bear market.
Yet it's the most unusual energy bear market I've witnessed in my 25
years in the business. It's rare to get a selloff like this that is not
precipitated by a recession. The demand for oil is ever growing. It
normally rises even in a recession.
"This is the most unusual energy bear market I've witnessed in my 25 years in the business. It's rare to get a selloff like this that is not precipitated by a recession."
The decline started after
Brent crude went to $120/barrel ($120/bbl). It was too far above the
marginal cost of production, which is usually what holds the price in
check. Then you had the serious rise in the U.S. dollar, which started
bringing down most commodity prices because they're priced in U.S.
dollars. At the same time you had excess supply driven by the U.S. shale
boom. Then, in November 2014, OPEC said that it would not curtail oil
production, knowing that would drive oil prices even lower to force
production cutbacks around the world. That was probably the right thing
to do, but I don't think even OPEC expected to see oil at $40/bbl.
TER: What are your near-term and medium-term forecasts for oil and gas?
RA:
It's always hard to tell where things are going in the near term. But
when you look out, say, six to nine months, you're likely to see a
substantially higher oil price. That's because it's unbelievably rare to
be trading below the average all-in cost of production. The all-in cost
of production is in the $55–60/bbl range. While Brent has gone back
above those levels, WTI (West Texas Intermediate) is still below. It's
not sustainable.
Case in point: We have seen the number of U.S.
drilling rigs collapse from more than 1,900 to just over 1,000 since
last fall. That hasn't translated to lower U.S. oil production yet, but
it's coming. If you're not out there finding more oil, and you have
abnormally high decline rates—U.S. shale oil wells tend to decline much
faster than conventional oil wells—you're setting up for a decent
production decline in the next 12–18 months. And, even if U.S.
production were to merely flatline, the global supply/demand equation is
tight enough that the ever-growing demand should quickly create a
supply deficit.
TER: You still like some energy
names, even with oil at around $50/bbl. Is it about finding specific
narratives with catalysts in a bear market?
RA:
First of all, you have to have a forecast that the bear market is going
to end, which we do. As I said, the price for oil has overshot to the
downside, below the average all-in cost of production. There's an adage
in economics: Gluts beget shortages and shortages beget gluts. Clearly,
we had a "mini-glut" because of the U.S. shale overhang, but we can end
up in a shortage position rather quickly.
"When you look out six to nine months, you're likely to see a substantially higher oil price."
Globally,
supply amounts to 94 million barrels per day (94 MMbbl/d) versus demand
of about 93.5 MMbbl/d. Demand has been growing smartly, thanks to
countries like China and India. But the problem for the oil market is
that U.S. supplies went from 6 MMbbl/d of supply to 9 MMbbl/d in three
years. That has now flatlined just above the 9 MMbbl/day mark and I
suspect it will drop. In Q1/15, global oil demand rose by 2 MMbbl/d
year-over-year. So U.S. production doesn't have to drop far before
overall demand outstrips supply again. That will, at the margin, quickly
bring prices back up.
TER: So even though U.S. oil inventories are at their highest point since 2001, you see that changing quickly?
RA:
Yes, because global inventories are relatively normal. It's only U.S.
inventories that are bloated. Some people believe refineries are
intentionally building supply because they see problems ahead. Refiners
are known for being pretty adept. There has been commentary about the
amount of heavy oil that is needed to import for refining. Heavy oil
imports have been jacking up and leading to some strange inventory
levels in the U.S.
TER: In the report I
referenced earlier, you aptly noted that investors are often giving up
returns in the rush to safe investments, like government bonds or
slow-growth blue-chip equities. How do you and your team balance risk
versus reward?
RA: A number of ways. I'll divide
it between bottom up and top down. From a bottom-up perspective, we look
for a margin of safety. That means if the price is trading at or above
our appraisal, using our discounted cash flow models as fair value,
we're not interested. A stock needs to be trading at a discount to fair
value, because if something goes wrong we want to make sure there's a
margin of safety. To make a sufficient return that beats your hurdle
rate, you want something to go from at least $0.80 on the dollar back up
to a dollar, and collect the dividends and growth in the company on top
of that. We screen more than 1,200 large-cap stocks—the largest in the
world, and a number of medium- and small-size companies, too—looking for
those that are trading at less than $0.80 on the dollar. That's one
piece of the puzzle.
Then you want to do your due diligence, to
make sure that you understand the businesses you're buying. They
shouldn't be subject to regulatory issues that could alter the entire
business, or leveraged to a point where the business could be in peril.
At the same time, you want to avoid what we call "value traps," where
the stock might be cheap, but it's cheap for a reason. Therefore, you
want to focus on earnings revisions and near-term happenings in the
business.
From a top-down perspective, you want to monitor not for
your typical 3–6% corrections, but for those 20% or more drawdowns in
the market. Those usually arrive when recessions come.
TER: What are some oil and gas equities that Trapeze owns at $50/bbl oil?
RA: Our favorite at the moment continues to be Manitok Energy Inc. (MEI:TSX.V),
a 5,000 barrel a day (5 Mbbl/d) producer with all its assets in
Alberta. The company is one of the cheapest we can find in the space.
It's trading at about two times enterprise value:earnings before
interest, taxes, depreciation and amortization (EV:EBITDA) versus the
group, which is trading at about seven times EV:EBITDA. We believe the
company has a long runway of growth ahead because it has established a
foothold in an area of Alberta called Entice, which it bought from Encana Corp. (ECA:TSX; ECA:NYSE). Some initial results have been excellent.
TER: Why isn't the stock price moving higher?
RA:
The company was a CA$3/share stock last fall, but pressure from falling
energy prices and tie-in deliverable issues at both Stolberg, its
original core area, and Entice, have held the stock down. One tie-in
issue was related to Husky Energy Inc. (HSE:TSX)
facilities that Manitok delivers into, and the other was related to
similar Encana facilities, where the condensate content overwhelmed the
facility. The company has made discoveries, but the market doesn't like a
company that has production glitches.
I think the market is being
myopic, and production should be in line in a month or so. The market
is also concerned about the higher royalty rates Manitok pays PrairieSky Royalty Ltd. (PSK:TSX)
for the Entice production, and the capital spending obligations it has
this year and next. But PrairieSky is aware of this issue and,
hopefully, there can be a meeting of the minds to alleviate any concern.
TER: When The Energy Report talked with
you in June 2014, you had a target of CA$4.50/share on Manitok, and it
was trading at around CA$2.25/share. Now, it's around
CA$0.80–0.90/share. Do you still have a CA$4.50 target?
RA:
It wouldn't be an immediate target because I don't think that oil is
going to be $80/bbl shortly. However, with the Canadian dollar having
gone from par to about CA$1.22 now on the U.S. dollar, the value of
Manitok today is in the CA$2.50/share range, but could easily rise to
CA$4/share or substantially higher with higher oil prices. As drilling
at Entice continues, production and reserve additions should rise
significantly over the next couple of years, offering compelling upside
potential.
TER: How does a tiny company like Manitok maintain investor interest in a $50/bbl oil market?
RA:
As long as companies are delivering growth and earnings, they will
continue to garner market attention. When those things stop the market
tends to abandon ship. To date, Manitok has been using the Cenovus Energy Inc. (CVE:TSX; CVE:NYSE)
analog, which is about 25 kilometers away, meaning Cenovus wells that
look similar to the Entice wells. But the Entice results to date have
been well above that analog.
"The global supply/demand equation is tight enough that the ever-growing demand should quickly create a supply deficit."
Soon,
Manitok will have had its Entice wells on for a five-month period. In
another month or so we'll be getting results on those and, hopefully,
we'll see a different royalty rate structure for the company too. And
costs are coming down across the board in the sector, so the cost per
each well should be lower, leading to 20–25% internal rates of return on
drilling. With all of that meshed together, even at $50/bbl oil, this
company will look appetizing. The market should be more relaxed about
the company's debt level, which is about 1.5 times EBITDA versus the
peer average above 2 times EBITDA.
TER: Is the revised royalty the next catalyst for the stock?
RA:
That's a piece of the puzzle. The bigger catalyst here is seeing what
the well results are, and getting the facilities issues locked down.
Hopefully, Manitok will be viewed as a diamond in the rough.
TER: What are some other names that you have positions in?
RA: One that is farther afield is Orca Exploration Group Inc. (ORC-A:TSX.V; ORC-B:TSX.V).
The company produces more than 90% of Tanzania's natural gas, about
half of which is used to produce power. The stock has been stuck in the
CA$3/share range for the longest time as Tanzania struggles with
corruption issues. And the national utility, TANESCO (Tanzania Electric
Supply Co. Ltd.), has not been meeting its obligations to Orca and other
companies on a timely basis, even though things have improved since the
World Bank got involved more than a year ago.
"We had a 'mini-glut' because of the U.S. shale overhang, but we can end up in a shortage position rather quickly."
Orca
is also not producing at the levels the market expected by now, but a
pipeline slated for completion years ago is finally going to be
commissioned in a few months. Hopefully, that pipeline will deliver
enough Orca natural gas to help alleviate the severe brownouts Tanzania
has experienced for many years. In the meantime, Orca is remarkably
cheap. The company has more than US$60M cash and is owed more than
US$60M by TANESCO and has no debt—there's about CA$2.50/share of net
working capital, including amounts we expect Orca to ultimately collect
from TANESCO. You're nearly getting all the reserves for free. And the
2P reserves are worth in excess of CA$11/share according to the
company’s third-party engineers.
TER: Is the company's move into Italy an attempt to mitigate risk in the stock?
RA: It's an attempt to diversify, and management liked what it saw there.
TER: Tell us about Orca management and some of its key people.
RA:
Chairman and CEO David Lyons has had a large ownership stake for many
years. He spun out Orca from PanOcean Energy Corp., a successful company
that ran for many years. Its primary investment was in Gabon, so he
knows what it takes to operate in Africa. Lyons ultimately sold PanOcean
to Addax Petroleum (AXC:TSX)
in 2006. I think that Orca will get sold, too. In November 2014, the
company announced that there were unsolicited expressions of interest,
either in the entire company or its assets. Something may already be
afoot.
TER: Why hasn't that created more of a run on the stock?
RA:
People are simply scared of Tanzania. A country that does not pay its
bills on a timely basis does not sit well with most investors. People
pay a premium for safety, and they discount things that they're
concerned about. Our job is to determine whether those risks are real.
While we don't believe there are material risks here, resolving Orca's
issues has taken way longer than we'd thought.
TER: Are there any other equity stories you'd like to tell us about?
RA: We like the oil and gas service space as well. One name in that space is Paris-based Technip S.A. (TEC:EP; TKPPY:OTC).
Technip is one of the leading oil and gas service companies, offering
both subsea and onshore/offshore services, everything from soup to nuts
in the business. The stock has been knocked down, along with the whole
energy space, to the point where it's trading at about 4.7 times
EV:EBITDA versus about 7 times for the group and 10 times for names like
Halliburton Co. (HAL:NYSE). We think it's a serious bargain. It's just a
lesser-known name.
TER: What's the next catalyst for Technip?
RA:
It's just about the oil price recovering. The service sector tends to
be higher beta, and moves more dramatically. We need to see higher oil
prices. When we wake up toward the end of the year, you should see a
significant recovery of most players in energy services.
TER: Are there any other stories you'd like to share with us?
RA: I'll give you one more: Weatherford International Ltd. (WFT:NYSE),
which is also in the oil and gas service space. Weatherford has been in
turnaround mode after it added too much debt. But it sold divisions,
cut costs and de-levered. Like Technip, once the price of oil and gas
recovers, you could see a material recovery in the price of Weatherford.
TER: What has the macro picture of the last five or six years taught you as an investor on a micro level?
RA:
In general, we've learned from our macro tools that when they are not
giving us red flags to remain fully invested, the market will continue
to climb the wall of worry. While it's doing that, until there is
something to actually worry about, you need to be fully invested,
assuming you can find bargains. Otherwise, cash becomes a significant
drag to your portfolio.
TER: Thank you for talking with us, Randall.
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1) Brian Sylvester conducted this interview for Streetwise Reports LLC, publisher of The Gold Report, The Energy Report, The Life Sciences Report and The Mining Report, and provides services to Streetwise Reports as an independent contractor. He owns, or his family owns, shares of the following companies mentioned in this interview: None.
2) The following companies mentioned in the interview are sponsors of Streetwise Reports: Manitok Energy Inc. The companies mentioned in this interview were not involved in any aspect of the interview preparation or post-interview editing so the expert could speak independently about the sector. Streetwise Reports does not accept stock in exchange for its services.
3) Randall Abramson: I own, or my family owns, shares of the following companies mentioned in this interview: Manitok Energy Inc. and Orca Exploration Group Inc. I personally am, or my family is, paid by the following companies mentioned in this interview: None. My company has a financial relationship with the following companies mentioned in this interview: None. I was not paid by Streetwise Reports for participating in this interview. Comments and opinions expressed are my own comments and opinions. I determined and had final say over which companies would be included in the interview based on my research, understanding of the sector and interview theme. I had the opportunity to review the interview for accuracy as of the date of the interview and am responsible for the content of the interview.
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1) Brian Sylvester conducted this interview for Streetwise Reports LLC, publisher of The Gold Report, The Energy Report, The Life Sciences Report and The Mining Report, and provides services to Streetwise Reports as an independent contractor. He owns, or his family owns, shares of the following companies mentioned in this interview: None.
2) The following companies mentioned in the interview are sponsors of Streetwise Reports: Manitok Energy Inc. The companies mentioned in this interview were not involved in any aspect of the interview preparation or post-interview editing so the expert could speak independently about the sector. Streetwise Reports does not accept stock in exchange for its services.
3) Randall Abramson: I own, or my family owns, shares of the following companies mentioned in this interview: Manitok Energy Inc. and Orca Exploration Group Inc. I personally am, or my family is, paid by the following companies mentioned in this interview: None. My company has a financial relationship with the following companies mentioned in this interview: None. I was not paid by Streetwise Reports for participating in this interview. Comments and opinions expressed are my own comments and opinions. I determined and had final say over which companies would be included in the interview based on my research, understanding of the sector and interview theme. I had the opportunity to review the interview for accuracy as of the date of the interview and am responsible for the content of the interview.
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